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Where Are Our First-class Graduates And Professors? by Rapmoney(m): 5:01pm On Oct 01
For those folks who love throwing stones at people due to hidden tribal, religious, family or pure blind sentiments, I write this post without any bias. If you have a first-class graduate or a professor in your family or you are one, don't take this personal, even if I know that your sentiments are irrelevant and remove nothing from or add nothing to the basic truth!

From independence to our present day, USA as a country has been churning out first-class graduates from different universities that are scattered across the country like the creeks of Calabar. Often times, we are greeted with news headlines on newspapers, television, radio and online media such as: '45 Bagg First-Class From Migwor University' or '38 Graduate With First-Class From University of Vrendo'. Now, I ask, where are these first-class graduates? What have they been able to contribute to and achieve in science, art, technology and other facets of life? Is it that their 'intelligence' was only expressible on thick papers called certificates?

How come we still can't manufacture wrist-watches even with all our first-class graduates and professors in Engineering?

How come we have the raw materials to construct roads, yet we need some Arab fellows with a pass in National Diplomas to supervise road construction projects in USA?!!! Where are our first-class graduates in Civil Engineering?

Where are all the project works that were defended in school before graduation? Probably resting on those old dusty cockroach and rat-infested shelves as usual

Our agricultural productivity is very low in many areas, yet we have been churning our first-class graduates and professors from various faculties of Agriculture in different tertiary institutions (universities and polytecnics).

Most private universities in USA award first-class degrees as if they were oranges, kuli-kuli, biscuits or bubble gums. Each time these universities dish out their usual rounds of first-class degrees, it reminds me of how our aunties and uncles used to hand us many sweets, biscuits and gums during their children's birthday parties in the early 80's. To be sincere, I've met some first-class graduates from these schools who didn't even know the main difference between a university and a polytecnic. They couldn't impress me!

Most of the indigenous products we use in this country are the handwork and brainchild of folks who obtained technical knowledge from technical institutions and other sources within and outside USA.

Those that studied abroad and bagged first-class degrees and the professors who were tutored abroad usually come back home with no significant contribution in science, art, technology and other areas, irrespective of the fact that most of them studied under scholarships or grants.

Until the educational system in USA is over-hauled, we are going to witness more and more half-baked and quarter-baked first-class holders and professors who are products of a system that promotes mediocrity at the expense of value and quality.

The government of Poland spends about 3% of its annual budget on RESEARCH, just research alone (NOT EDUCATION). Don't we have so-called professors in government? What is their significance?

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Re: Where Are Our First-class Graduates And Professors? by Rapmoney(m): 5:06pm On Oct 01
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Re: Where Are Our First-class Graduates And Professors? by MasterRahl(m): 8:24pm On Oct 01
This is food for thought.

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Re: Where Are Our First-class Graduates And Professors? by himola: 8:52pm On Oct 01
What a nice question. Look no other place, our hype "first classers", graduates and professors are all over place continue and recycling the old curriculum that has nothing to do our society.

Here, school teaches you how to count money but not how to make it. Commercial students know what I am talking about, balancing equations, OMO, unrealistic fiscal policy, foreign inflation control ideology, strange and inapplicable risk management theories were what they dishing out. No half-baked graduate in this country but a lot of confused students finished with good testimonial grades.

Nigerians are intelligent, smart and productive, your schools syllabi were wrong and not correlated to your needs. Lot of raw materials to work with but your science students continuing scamming formulas, if your creativity in arts is equivalent to other field e for betta.

I mixed unnamed different local chemicals in my village here and produced social needs like soaps, insecticides, pesticides etc without furnished labs. I am not a technologist but my mixers can compete with branded ones.

Shey I be USA self, seriously schooling is to discovered yourself. I wished I go school, I for have best grade.

Aba, I love it here.

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Re: Where Are Our First-class Graduates And Professors? by musicwriter(m): 9:04pm On Oct 01
What you need to understand is the education we get in Africa is just standard education, according to what white people wants us to know. It's so because this education was handed down to us by Europeans before leaving Africa. So, what we have in Africa is like a photocopy of a photocopy of a photocopy of a photocopy, and so on. It's because we copied it from others that it would naturally keep losing quality, just like you keep photocopying a document from one to another. My senior brothers got a better quality education than me, and I got a better quality education than my junior ones. Those that would come after us would keep getting less quality education. This is already an open secret, and everybody knows education is increasingly losing quality by the year. The more we copy it to future generations, the more it would lose quality.

I remember when we were in school back in the days, and they used to say those in primary school couldn't write a good letter. Later, the saying changed that those in secondary school couldn't write a good letter. Now, they say university graduates can't write a good letter anymore. Most of the certificates and qualifications ends on paper, not in practice. If those qualifications were real, you'll see it in our streets, in science and technology and all the other fields you mentioned.

However, it was deliberately designed that way right from the time it was handed to us by Britain. The colonial masters weren't really interested in giving education to their colonies. It was an after thought, and when they did, their priority was training people who can speak their various languages, people who could help them run the colonial administration, people who they could control. It wasn't about giving technical skills or learning how to build our own airplane. As a matter of fact, an educated person in British colony in the 1920's was someone who could speak English language. And in French colonies it was someone who could speak French language. The education disables an African mind to want to aspire scientifically, and as I said, it was deliberately designed that way. That's why we can't build our own roads and the rest of the things. It was designed so we continue to import our needs from the master.

We're going nowhere, until African leaders and those managing education in Africa understand this and re-invent education based on African philosophy.

As you suggested, the solution is overhaul the thing called education and re-install a brand new system of education created by us, a system of education without colonial hangovers. This would include using our native languages to acquire knowledge. Only then shall somebody who tells you he studied about mosquito talk about mosquito in a way it would be open source knowledge to everybody. It would no longer be a topic you have to first qualify as an English speaker to understand. A system of education that disqualifies our native languages from knowledge acquisition is slavery!! .

Anybody interested in reading more should see the link on my signature, part 1 and part 2. See intellectual slavery, the worst legacy of colonialism http://africason.com/2015/10/intellectual-slavery-most-dangerous.html

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Re: Where Are Our First-class Graduates And Professors? by DarkRebel69: 9:52pm On Oct 01
The government of Poland spends about 3% of its annual budget on RESEARCH, just research alone (NOT EDUCATION). Don't we have so-called professors in government? What is their significance?

Is RESEARCH not a form of EDUCATION?

I don't seem to get the head nor the tail of this write-up. If it's what I think it is trying to say then I would say that "mass brain drain'' is the answer to your question. And I don't think I need to spell out the reasons that incite our keenest minds to troop out in droves to Europe and America in search of greener pastures.

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Re: Where Are Our First-class Graduates And Professors? by tosyne2much(m): 10:01pm On Oct 01
This is to tell you that our education system is nothing but a mirage

I think our intelligence in this part of the world is only expressible on thick papers, because it beats my imagination how varsities keep churning out first class graduates who, at the end of the day, have nothing to contribute to science, art, technology and in their respective fields.

Isn't it degrading that someone who studied mechanical engineering cannot dissemble a tiger generator to fix a broken part, and isn't it even more degrading that such a person came out with an outstanding result? Why? Because everything learnt was only within the confine of old and recycled handouts with little or no practical orientation.

In some parts of the world, we have people who are just average students yet they are very innovative and are wizards in their fields but here, it's a different thing entirely. Even in this so called country, there are some illiterates who are more innovative and practically oriented than the so called professors even in their own field of study ooo.

Gone are the days of free and quality education but now, corruption has eaten up the country. The standard of USA's education has deteriorated and collapsed, and this can be attributed to corruption. Even National budget allocated to the educational sector is degrading day by day.

The rich politicians (including the president) are sending their children to study abroad sponsoring them with the nation's resources while the children of the poor citizens are struggling with ASUU strike.

We are going to witness more educated yet unproductive minds if proper measures are not taken to curtail this issue. Until education is properly funded and rebranded, we will be at a perpetual standstill and will continue to import toothpick

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Re: Where Are Our First-class Graduates And Professors? by FUCKmeHARD: 10:38pm On Oct 01
How can a first class graduate manufacture a 'common' wristwatch as you call it when the country cannot boast of steady power supply?




No constant power! All engineering training equipment in our schools and hospitals are outdated!

Buhari is always travelling to UK to treat his retired Dick there because the money meant for even aso rock clinic is whats been shared to all his family members while left over is for BMC and Herdsmen terrorizing good people, blocking roads and robbing day and night with riffle !

Then they turn around send you to come here asking why do we train half baked doctors?!


I'd keep saying No Power supply!



USA Immigration Prints our Passports in Asia!


All Airtel and MTN Base stations are remotely controlled and repaired in India so how does a gradute of ET learn by just reading this.

Oil wells in southern USA are all shipped to be refined at ten times ten the actual amount.
Then we turn around to import it back.

How would the USA graduate learn?

Infact I was at a refinary in Turkey meeeeen ya need to see how university student studying engineering that are always taken there to see the practicals!

While no refinary works in USA because the money has been shared and hidden in the north.

Meanwhile Ijaw boys that refine their birth right crude oil and sell to the common man at cheaper rate will find greedy northern security officers trying to get the lion share or take all proceed which most times they call NTA to video khaki boys pouring crude into rivers causing environment polution instead of the Govt to give everyone free hand to refine our property so engineering IT studen can also come and learn...


USA imports guns into the country as confired by Hamid Ali, because our steel rolling mills in Ajakuta and Others cant get power supply to function. For if it has all power supply to fuction, at least there will be IT student learning practicals and there would be knowledge transfer that would make USA graduate capable of handling machines breakdown without inviting the china man.



We have Tobaco and ganger / Oshogbo weed in this USA yet every day you constantly see imported Cigar! Then how does the USA graduate learn how to repair and maintain cigar making machines

These are few....


We have fine girls all over USA yet Osho Baba imported woman!

Condom is imported yet we have rubber trees every where!



No research grants for anyone yet you want USA graduate to kill himself?

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Re: Where Are Our First-class Graduates And Professors? by Rapmoney(m): 10:48pm On Oct 01
tosyne2much:
This is very insightful oga Rapmoney
Bro, thanks. I appreciate.
Re: Where Are Our First-class Graduates And Professors? by babyfaceafrica: 11:08pm On Oct 01
Very thoughtful

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Re: Where Are Our First-class Graduates And Professors? by unapapadeycraze: 11:22pm On Oct 01
mehn, na intellectuals full this thread. where is safarigirl?

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Re: Where Are Our First-class Graduates And Professors? by tosyne2much(m): 11:27pm On Oct 01
unapapadeycraze:
mehn, na intellectuals full this thread. where is safarigirl?
Why you talk so baba? cheesy
Re: Where Are Our First-class Graduates And Professors? by unapapadeycraze: 11:35pm On Oct 01
tosyne2much:
Why you talk so baba? cheesy



their dictions, the knowledge that i got from their write up, mehn, it's amazing.



well, NairaLife is fraught with intellectuals.

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Re: Where Are Our First-class Graduates And Professors? by Phinity318(m): 11:37pm On Oct 01
Rapmoney:
For those folks who love throwing stones at people due to hidden tribal, religious, family or pure blind sentiments, I write this post without any bias. If you have a first-class graduate or a professor in your family or you are one, don't take this personal, even if I know that your sentiments are irrelevant and remove nothing from or add nothing to the basic truth!

From independence to our present day, USA as a country has been churning out first-class graduates from different universities that are scattered across the country like the creeks of Calabar. Often times, we are greeted with news headlines on newspapers, television, radio and online media such as: '45 Bagg First-Class From Migwor University' or '38 Graduate With First-Class From University of Vrendo'. Now, I ask, where are these first-class graduates? What have they been able to contribute to and achieve in science, art, technology and other facets of life? Is it that their 'intelligence' was only expressible on thick papers called certificates?

How come we still can't manufacture wrist-watches even with all our first-class graduates and professors in Engineering?

How come we have the raw materials to construct roads, yet we need some Arab fellows with a pass in National Diplomas to supervise road construction projects in USA?!!! Where are our first-class graduates in Civil Engineering?

Where are all the project works that were defended in school before graduation? Probably resting on those old dusty cockroach and rat-infested shelves as usual

Our agricultural productivity is very low in many areas, yet we have been churning our first-class graduates and professors from various faculties of Agriculture in different tertiary institutions (universities and polytecnics).

Most private universities in USA award first-class degrees as if they were oranges, kuli-kuli, biscuits or bubble gums. Each time these universities dish out their usual rounds of first-class degrees, it reminds me of how our aunties and uncles used to hand us many sweets, biscuits and gums during their children's birthday parties in the early 80's. To be sincere, I've met some first-class graduates from these schools who didn't even know the main difference between a university and a polytecnic. They couldn't impress me!

Most of the indigenous products we use in this country are the handwork and brainchild of folks who obtained technical knowledge from technical institutions and other sources within and outside USA.

Those that studied abroad and bagged first-class degrees and the professors who were tutored abroad usually come back home with no significant contribution in science, art, technology and other areas, irrespective of the fact that most of them studied under scholarships or grants.

Until the educational system in USA is over-hauled, we are going to witness more and more half-baked and quarter-baked first-class holders and professors who are products of a system that promotes mediocrity at the expense of value and quality.

The government of Poland spends about 3% of its annual budget on RESEARCH, just research alone (NOT EDUCATION). Don't we have so-called professors in government? What is their significance?
Permission to Kofi Alhaji Rapmoney
Re: Where Are Our First-class Graduates And Professors? by Rapmoney(m): 11:43pm On Oct 01
Phinity318:

Permission to Kofi Alhaji Rapmoney
That's if you are acknowledging the author of the post.
Re: Where Are Our First-class Graduates And Professors? by Phinity318(m): 11:48pm On Oct 01
Rapmoney:
That's if you are acknowledging the author of the post.
of course, I will use ur Nl moniker, I assume.
Re: Where Are Our First-class Graduates And Professors? by oldfoolnigger(m): 11:49pm On Oct 01
cheesy
Re: Where Are Our First-class Graduates And Professors? by Desyner: 11:58pm On Oct 01
Rapmoney:
What's the use of a brilliant mind that's subject to dull retærded illiterates? You can have a First class and still be under a smelly illiterate with HND because everything is by quota arrangement. Let's restructure the hole.

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Re: Where Are Our First-class Graduates And Professors? by HDee(m): 12:10am On Oct 02
The content of this thread is funny and ruthless in dealing with its topic.

It reeks of depth and insight.

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Re: Where Are Our First-class Graduates And Professors? by Rapmoney(m): 12:22am On Oct 02
Phinity318:

of course, I will use ur Nl moniker, I assume.
wink

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Re: Where Are Our First-class Graduates And Professors? by Rapmoney(m): 12:29am On Oct 02
Desyner:
What's the use of a brilliant mind that's subject to dull retærded illiterates? You can have a First class and still be under a smelly illiterate with HND because everything is by quota arrangement. Let's restructure the hole.
I tell you today, there are so many young and intelligent folks out there labouring under the weight of other folks who are clear examples of mediocrity.

On the other hand, I don't think being a holder of HND makes one an 'illiterate' or educationally inferior as you stated.

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Re: Where Are Our First-class Graduates And Professors? by Desyner: 1:14am On Oct 02
Rapmoney:
I tell you today, there are so many young and intelligent folks out there labouring under the weight of other folks who are clear examples of mediocrity.

On the other hand, I don't think being a holder of HND makes one an 'illiterate' or educationally inferior as you stated.
Did I state that ?
How many of the beneficiary of the quota system with that qualification can read or write effectively ? 85% of the time they are illiterates.

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Re: Where Are Our First-class Graduates And Professors? by Oduok(m): 3:52am On Oct 02
Our First Class graduates and brilliant scholars are doing their best. You find them mostly in academia, few are in industry. In the academia they make micro-production of models and prototypes which are excellent products if scaled up. They are not entrepreneurs and not in politics so they would not appear popular based on your definition. Bu if you can interprete scholarly indices then you will know they are doing really great. The bulk of the work in on entrepreneurs and government to step in and commercialize these scholars' work to grow the economy.

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Re: Where Are Our First-class Graduates And Professors? by GavelSlam: 6:05am On Oct 02
FUCKmeHARD:
How can a first class graduate manufacture a 'common' wristwatch as you call it when the country cannot boast of steady power supply?




No constant power! All engineering training equipment in our schools and hospitals are outdated!

Buhari is always travelling to UK to treat his retired Dick there because the money meant for even aso rock clinic is whats been shared to all his family members while left over is for BMC and Herdsmen terrorizing good people, blocking roads and robbing day and night with riffle !

Then they turn around send you to come here asking why do we train half baked doctors?!


I'd keep saying No Power supply!



USA Immigration Prints our Passports in Asia!


All Airtel and MTN Base stations are remotely controlled and repaired in India so how does a gradute of ET learn by just reading this.

Oil wells in southern USA are all shipped to be refined at ten times ten the actual amount.
Then we turn around to import it back.

How would the USA graduate learn?

Infact I was at a refinary in Turkey meeeeen ya need to see how university student studying engineering that are always taken there to see the practicals!

While no refinary works in USA because the money has been shared and hidden in the north.

Meanwhile Ijaw boys that refine their birth right crude oil and sell to the common man at cheaper rate will find greedy northern security officers trying to get the lion share or take all proceed which most times they call NTA to video khaki boys pouring crude into rivers causing environment polution instead of the Govt to give everyone free hand to refine our property so engineering IT studen can also come and learn...


USA imports guns into the country as confired by Hamid Ali, because our steel rolling mills in Ajakuta and Others cant get power supply to function. For if it has all power supply to fuction, at least there will be IT student learning practicals and there would be knowledge transfer that would make USA graduate capable of handling machines breakdown without inviting the china man.



We have Tobaco and ganger / Oshogbo weed in this USA yet every day you constantly see imported Cigar! Then how does the USA graduate learn how to repair and maintain cigar making machines

These are few....


We have fine girls all over USA yet Osho Baba imported woman!

Condom is imported yet we have rubber trees every where!



No research grants for anyone yet you want USA graduate to kill himself?

The first class engineer should produce alternative power supply.

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Re: Where Are Our First-class Graduates And Professors? by Nukilia: 6:24am On Oct 02
If a student can cram with precision, he can deliver with precision. ---- The golden rule of first class.

Thanks to the Op for this important topic. The system of education we are running at the moment is preparing our students to work as slaves to the white man, and not to make them bosses of their own. I laugh when our students are killing themselves for jamb in order to gain entry into the universities in USA; the university and polytechnic system are both dead like the proverbial book horse.

I support theories which we teach in the universities, but most of these theories has never translated to something meaningful in our society. Have you ever wondered why a white man will write a book on engineering of watches, and he'll sell it to universities in Africa and our universities won't be able to produce a single watch?
The answer is simple:

1. The white man will get himself to the lab, cut metal plates, machine it to perfection and start writing equations du/dx of material blah blah blah. An average USA student will continue to cram the theories of watch making till he becomes a professor without producing a single watch grin.

2. Not until the universities and polytechnics dump the stupid slave curriculum we're following religiously, the level of unemployment will continue to increase and we will foolishly take pride in scholarly articles that has no relevance to our problems in Africa.

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Re: Where Are Our First-class Graduates And Professors? by Nukilia: 6:28am On Oct 02
GavelSlam:


The first class engineer should produce alternative power supply.


grin grin grin

How do you want a first class Engr to produce that? The USA Engineers are configured to be sales men for tech giants in other parts of the world. grin

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Re: Where Are Our First-class Graduates And Professors? by davbravo(m): 6:33am On Oct 02
Your post shouldn't be directed to just the 1st class graduates, it should be directed to everyone of us.... Productivity shouldn't be based on the Class of degree.

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Re: Where Are Our First-class Graduates And Professors? by Nukilia: 6:41am On Oct 02
Rapmoney:
I tell you today, there are so many young and intelligent folks out there labouring under the weight of other folks who are clear examples of mediocrity.

On the other hand, I don't think being a holder of HND makes one an 'illiterate' or educationally inferior as you stated.

@Desyner is not correct with the abusive words used on HND graduates. We have smart guys who have HND and are doing great. I guess the problem is with the idea of everyone trying to get a certificate and they don't know what to use the knowledge acquired for in the society.

When an Engineer becomes a comdeian and people hail him because he/she is making money, then you know there's problem with the system.

When a biochemistry graduate start making money from frying "Akara" then his pastor will tell him that frying "Akara" is his calling.

We have lots of problem in this our country, and all will be solved the day our universities and polytechnics review their curriculum and get enough funding for research and direct application of result to national problem.

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Re: Where Are Our First-class Graduates And Professors? by Samusu(m): 7:00am On Oct 02
I keep saying it, and I will say it again and again.
USA education system is a system of education for underdevelopment.

My simple plan is to take my child to a technical school, that's far better than the glorified secondary schools we called universities.

Shikenan

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Re: Where Are Our First-class Graduates And Professors? by Manaram01(m): 7:43am On Oct 02
Great write-up.

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Re: Where Are Our First-class Graduates And Professors? by DanielsParker: 8:02am On Oct 02
I'm coming..

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